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| This is a transcription((created with the permission of André Saine, the publisher of the said video)) of a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2uBBU4XT7Y|YouTube video]] recording a talk on homeopathy that took place on the premises of McGill University, November 27<sup>th</sup>, 2012. The topic of the talk was //Homeopathy: Mere Placebo or Great Medicine?//, the opponents were Dr. André Saine and Dr. Joe Schwarcz. | This is a transcription((created with the permission of André Saine, the publisher of the said video)) of a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2uBBU4XT7Y|YouTube video]] recording a talk on homeopathy that took place on the premises of McGill University, November 27<sup>th</sup>, 2012. The topic of the talk was //Homeopathy: Mere Placebo or Great Medicine?//, the opponents were Dr. André Saine and Dr. Joe Schwarcz. | ||
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| + | After the debate, Drs. André Saine and Joe Schwarcz accepted to answer questions from the public by writing. Dr. Schwarcz also sent 18 questions to Dr. Saine. In return, Dr. Saine sent 27 questions to Dr. Schwarcz. These questions and answers were added to their corresponding pages: | ||
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| + | * [[en:misc:talk-qa-schwarcz-saine|Questions from Dr. Joe Schwarcz to Dr. André Saine]] | ||
| + | * [[en:misc:talk-qa-saine-schwarcz|Questions from Dr. André Saine to Dr. Joe Schwarcz]] | ||
| + | * [[en:misc:talk-qa-public-schwarcz|Questions from public to Dr. Joe Schwarcz]] | ||
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| {{anchor:s685}}I’ll give you an example. {{anchor:s686}}In 1849, there was a major epidemic of cholera all over the world, but we’re going to focus only on Cincinnati. {{anchor:s687}}Pulte and Erhmann treated 2600 cases with only 35 deaths, or a mortality rate of 1.3%. {{anchor:s688}}The mortality rate for cholera in the 19th century was 50%, regardless of the physician, the place, the country or whether the patient was treated. {{anchor:s689}}In Asia, in Egypt, in Tunisia, in Turkey, they didn’t have treatment, and the mortality, was around 50%. {{anchor:s690}}Regardless of the treatment, the mortality was 50%. {{anchor:s691}}And “//despite having 60-70 cases that were in a deep state of collapse// ,” (<wrap hi>Pulte and Ehrmann only had a mortality rate of 1.32%</wrap>). | {{anchor:s685}}I’ll give you an example. {{anchor:s686}}In 1849, there was a major epidemic of cholera all over the world, but we’re going to focus only on Cincinnati. {{anchor:s687}}Pulte and Erhmann treated 2600 cases with only 35 deaths, or a mortality rate of 1.3%. {{anchor:s688}}The mortality rate for cholera in the 19th century was 50%, regardless of the physician, the place, the country or whether the patient was treated. {{anchor:s689}}In Asia, in Egypt, in Tunisia, in Turkey, they didn’t have treatment, and the mortality, was around 50%. {{anchor:s690}}Regardless of the treatment, the mortality was 50%. {{anchor:s691}}And “//despite having 60-70 cases that were in a deep state of collapse// ,” (<wrap hi>Pulte and Ehrmann only had a mortality rate of 1.32%</wrap>). | ||
| - | {{anchor:s692}}Now, there was a skeptic that said that they cheated. {{anchor:s693}}So there was a commission that was instigated, and the commission was chaired by Alfonso Taft, who became Secretary of War eventually under Grant, and his son became President of the United States, so he was a reputable person, and the commission’s outcome was that what the homeopaths had reported was exactly true to the point, in every single case. | + | {{anchor:s692}}Now, there was a skeptic that said that they cheated. {{anchor:s693}}So there was a commission that was instigated, and the commission was chaired by Alphonso Taft, who became Secretary of War eventually under Grant, and his son became President of the United States, so he was a reputable person, and the commission’s outcome was that what the homeopaths had reported was exactly true to the point, in every single case. |
| {{anchor:s694}}Now, I’m going to look at a second disease, if I have one minute: pneumonia. {{anchor:s695}}Osler reported that the mortality of pneumonia since around 1850s has been steady at 30%; even himself at John Hopkins had 30%. {{anchor:s696}}Homeopaths will obtain results with less than 2%, and usually more like 1%. {{anchor:s697}}It’s remarkable when we consider that 1 out of 25 Canadians dies of pneumonia now, when we could lower the mortality dramatically just by using those little pills that Joe is talking about, those good placebos. | {{anchor:s694}}Now, I’m going to look at a second disease, if I have one minute: pneumonia. {{anchor:s695}}Osler reported that the mortality of pneumonia since around 1850s has been steady at 30%; even himself at John Hopkins had 30%. {{anchor:s696}}Homeopaths will obtain results with less than 2%, and usually more like 1%. {{anchor:s697}}It’s remarkable when we consider that 1 out of 25 Canadians dies of pneumonia now, when we could lower the mortality dramatically just by using those little pills that Joe is talking about, those good placebos. | ||
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