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 This is a transcription((created with the permission of André Saine, the publisher of the said video)) of a [[http://​www.youtube.com/​watch?​v=T2uBBU4XT7Y|YouTube video]] recording a talk on homeopathy that took place on the premises of McGill University, November 27<​sup>​th</​sup>,​ 2012. The topic of the talk was //​Homeopathy:​ Mere Placebo or Great Medicine?//,​ the opponents were Dr. André Saine and Dr. Joe Schwarcz. This is a transcription((created with the permission of André Saine, the publisher of the said video)) of a [[http://​www.youtube.com/​watch?​v=T2uBBU4XT7Y|YouTube video]] recording a talk on homeopathy that took place on the premises of McGill University, November 27<​sup>​th</​sup>,​ 2012. The topic of the talk was //​Homeopathy:​ Mere Placebo or Great Medicine?//,​ the opponents were Dr. André Saine and Dr. Joe Schwarcz.
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 +After the debate, Drs. André Saine and Joe Schwarcz accepted to answer questions from the public by writing. Dr. Schwarcz also sent 18 questions to Dr. Saine. In return, Dr. Saine sent 27 questions to Dr. Schwarcz. These questions and answers were added to their corresponding pages:
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 +  * [[en:​misc:​talk-qa-schwarcz-saine|Questions from Dr. Joe Schwarcz to Dr. André Saine]]
 +  * [[en:​misc:​talk-qa-saine-schwarcz|Questions from Dr. André Saine to Dr. Joe Schwarcz]]
 +  * [[en:​misc:​talk-qa-public-schwarcz|Questions from public to Dr. Joe Schwarcz]]
  
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 {{anchor:​s147}}And here on the left you can see tin at the 10<​sup>​-60</​sup>​ and on the right you can see tin at the 10<​sup>​-400</​sup>​. {{anchor:​s148}}Now,​ you will say, “ //Yeah, but that was published in a journal of homeopathy//​.” {{anchor:​s147}}And here on the left you can see tin at the 10<​sup>​-60</​sup>​ and on the right you can see tin at the 10<​sup>​-400</​sup>​. {{anchor:​s148}}Now,​ you will say, “ //Yeah, but that was published in a journal of homeopathy//​.”
  
-{{anchor:​s149}}The same team [[http://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pubmed/​23083226|published]] in the //Journal of Langmuir//, which is a very, very prestigious journal of chemistry -- actually, it’s one of the journals of the American Chemical Society, and they have a motto, which is: “//The most trusted, the most cited, and the most read journal.//​” And this team from the Indian Institute of Technology confirmed that they found particles even at these extreme super-Avogadro dilutions, and they found out a process.[(nanostudy>​Chikramane PS, Kalita D, Suresh AK, Kane SG, Bellare JR. Why Extreme Dilutions Reach Non-zero Asymptotes: A Nanoparticulate Hypothesis Based on Froth Flotation. //​Langmuir.//​ 2012 Nov 13;​28(45):​15864-75. doi: 10.1021/​la303477s. Epub 2012 Nov 1.)]+{{anchor:​s149}}The same team [[http://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pubmed/​23083226|published]] in the journal of //​Langmuir//,​ which is a very, very prestigious journal of chemistry -- actually, it’s one of the journals of the American Chemical Society, and they have a motto, which is: “//The most trusted, the most cited, and the most read journal.//​” And this team from the Indian Institute of Technology confirmed that they found particles even at these extreme super-Avogadro dilutions, and they found out a process.[(nanostudy>​Chikramane PS, Kalita D, Suresh AK, Kane SG, Bellare JR. Why Extreme Dilutions Reach Non-zero Asymptotes: A Nanoparticulate Hypothesis Based on Froth Flotation. //​Langmuir.//​ 2012 Nov 13;​28(45):​15864-75. doi: 10.1021/​la303477s. Epub 2012 Nov 1.)]
  
 {{anchor:​s150}}I’ll show you: here is the process of trituration,​ and here is the process of dilution. {{anchor:​s151}}After three series of trituration,​ it goes into a solution, and then the succuss. {{anchor:​s152}}And then as this process progresses, there are nano-bubbles that accumulate in an asymptotic manner. {{anchor:​s153}}That means it never reaches zero. {{anchor:​s154}}So as you are diluting and succussing, the nano-bubbles actually multiply. {{anchor:​s150}}I’ll show you: here is the process of trituration,​ and here is the process of dilution. {{anchor:​s151}}After three series of trituration,​ it goes into a solution, and then the succuss. {{anchor:​s152}}And then as this process progresses, there are nano-bubbles that accumulate in an asymptotic manner. {{anchor:​s153}}That means it never reaches zero. {{anchor:​s154}}So as you are diluting and succussing, the nano-bubbles actually multiply.
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